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Tree Commission
Meeting Minutes


The New Castle City’s Tree Commission Meeting took place on October 5, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. in the City of New Castle’s Town Hall.

Members Present: Chip Patterson, Chairperson
Susan Keyser, Co-Chairperson
Erv Thatcher
Nancy Coning
Fran Peden
Mark Miller

Member Absent: Tom Truman

City Personnel: Roger Akin, City Solicitor


The meeting was called to order by Mr. Patterson at 5:35 p.m. Roll call was taken.

Approval of Minutes – Mr. Thatcher made a motion to approve the minutes of the June and August meetings. Mr. Peden seconded the motion which was approved unanimously.

Petition to Stop Work and Temporary Moratorium – Mr. Patterson stepped down as chairperson for this matter; Ms. Keyser presided as co-chairperson. She suggested setting ground rules in advance of discussion to allow all parties to speak but keep their comments solely related to the trees on the property. Fellow Commission members were in agreement.

Mr. Bayard Marin, counsel for John Wheeler and Katherine Klyce who have issued the petition, presented to the Commission. Mr. Marin stated that there should be a complete investigation into how the trees at 101 West Third Street were felled; what led up to them being felled and who authorized the work. He is concerned with compliance and non-compliance with Tree Commission rules as well as failure to disclose information to the Tree Commission. Mr. Marin asked that Mr. Patterson recuse himself from this hearing because of his prior involvement with the matter. Mr. Patterson had no issue with recusing himself. A quorum is still in place after Mr. Patterson’s recusal.

At this time Mr. Tracey informed that Mr. Thatcher also participated in removal of the trees. He was the person who was onsite when the request was made by his clients to remove the trees. Mr. Thatcher then communicated the request to Mr. Patterson who then communicated to Mr. Thatcher that the trees could be removed. If Mr. Patterson is being asked to step down based on his participation in the decision-making process, then Mr. Thatcher is in the same position. Mr. Tracey does not have any trouble with their participation but wanted to ensure all parties were aware of the circumstances. Mr. Marin agreed that Mr. Thatcher should recuse himself which would then effect the quorum. (Discussion followed.) Mr. Thatcher said that roots were removed from trees about 3-4 weeks before the trees were removed. When roots are taken away from a tree the tree will ultimately die. The reason the roots were removed was because the City raised a curb along West Third Street.

Mr. Akin, City Solicitor, offered that before particulars are offered on this matter we have been informed that two (2) members of this Commission had a role in the removal of the tree. He suggested that this body should consider ruling on the request made by Mr. Tracey who has asked that Mr. Thatcher should recuse himself as a voting member on the same general principal as Mr. Patterson. Both gentlemen can provide information relevant to the decision and should provide that information to this Commission so they have all background before making a ruling. Mr. Tracey has asked Mr. Thatcher to step aside as a voting member of the Commission in this matter. Mr. Marin has stated that he would not object to Mr. Thatcher recusing himself and providing factual testimony only. The Tree Commission Ordinance states that five (5) members must be present and voting in order to establish a quorum. If these two (2) members step aside and become witnesses rather than participating Commission members this leaves the Commission without a quorum. (Discussion followed about parliamentary procedure.) Mr. Akin continued by stating that he does not want this Commission to go forward and take action if someone is going to later challenge that action as having been taken without the presence of a voting quorum. He noted that if counsel for both parties would stipulate that the four (4) remaining members of this Commission will constitute a quorum for purposes of this hearing they may do so.
Mr. Tracey and Mr. Marin both concurred that they cannot agree to a lesser quorum.

(Executive Session was called to allow Commission members to receive legal advice of counsel.)

Mr. Akin conferred with Messrs. Tracey and Marin about a possible date/time of 10/22/09 at 5:30 p.m. to conduct a special meeting to address this matter. Tree Commission members will also notify Mr. Akin of their availability for this meeting.

Mr. Patterson resumed his role as Chair.

Chairman’s Report
Mr. Patterson distributed correspondence to Commission members pertaining to various agenda topics.

East Third Street -- Ms. Keyser reported that a large ash tree came down during a recent storm near the home of Ms. Dorsey Fiske. The tree is in front of two properties. Ms. Fiske informed that she would like a larger tree than a plum tree. The Tree Commission does not typically put in a tree as small as a plum unless there are wires present. Mr. Patterson confirmed that there are wires present along this side of the street. Ms. Keyser will ask Ms. Fiske to speak with her neighbors to determine what type of tree will be requested. Mr. Miller said Ms. Fiske does want a tree and added that the Davis’ also want a tree which has been on the tree list for a period of time. He suggested a more majestic tree and speaking with the homeowners first.

Bob Rizzardi looked at the sycamore on East 6th Street near Delaware Street and diagnosed that this tree is diseased and recommended removal. He also looked at the tree at West 10th Street and said it is dead and recommended removal. It is not currently a hazard. Mr. Patterson received calls about pruning of trees at 409 Harmony Street and removal of a tree at 702 Tremont Street. The latter tree is an ash tree and is in the right-of-way.

Mr. Patterson noted several trees that should be examined by Russ Carlson.

10th & Delaware Street – the resident is complaining about roots in their sewer. Mr. Patterson spoke with New Castle County about sewer lateral rules (replacement and cleaning) and where responsibility rests. He will get a copy of these rules for all Commission members. (Discussion followed.)

Skip Wample – soil testing will be done and tested by the UD to determine what caused his trees to die. Mr. Patterson will report the findings when they are received. (Discussion followed.)

Members’ Report
Erv Thatcher -- there are three (3) swamp maples at 11th & Washington Streets that need to be pruned. The palonia tree in the park near the ticket box has branches hanging against a structure. This will also involve pruning. There is a sycamore tree at 242 E. Second Street that has a hole in its top that should be looked at. There is a sycamore tree at 230 E. Second Street home that has several branches close to the residence that needs attention.
Fran Peden – no report.
Nancy Coning – no report.
Susan Keyser – reported that a maple on Delaware Street (near post office) may need to be removed; much of the crown is dead and may be diseased. There were trees being considered under a grant for the Third Street Extended area. We did not go through with obtaining the grant and she inquired whether we should invest in this area at this time. They are currently on our tree list. Ms. Keyser reported that trees planted in this area in the past were destroyed by beavers.
(Discussion followed.)

Mr. Thatcher suggested holding off planting eight (8) trees in this area until a later time when it is clearer what the Trustees’ plans are for the area. He asked Ms. Keyser to speak with the Trustees to learn their intentions. (Discussion about other trees on the tree list followed.) If the Trustees want these trees then the tree list would total 15 trees. Ms. Keyser has obtained additional names of contractors and will send out the request for trees and bids.
Mr. Patterson made a motion to approve the tree list as discussed. Mr. Miller seconded the motion which was passed by unanimous vote.
Mr. Miller – questioned a new tree that was planted on Delaware Street where bricks were removed from concrete. He was informed it is a cherry tree and was not planted by the Tree Commission.

Adjournment
Ms. Keyser made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Peden seconded the motion. The motion was approved and the meeting was adjourned at 6:50 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,


Debbie Turner
Stenographer


(Mr. Miller left the meeting at 6:35 p.m.)

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